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Bush Administration Backs Gun Control

Bush Administration Backs Gun Control

David G. Savage
LA Times
January 14, 2008

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In their legal battle over gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment, gun- control advocates never expected to get a boost from the Bush administration.

But that’s just what happened when U.S. Solicitor General Paul D. Clement urged the Supreme Court in a brief Friday to say that gun rights are limited and subject to “reasonable regulation” by the government and that all federal restrictions on firearms should be upheld.

Reasonable regulations include the federal ban on machine guns and other “particularly dangerous types of firearms,” he said in the brief. Moreover, the government forbids gun possession by felons, drug users, “mental defectives” and people subject to restraining orders, he said.

“Given the unquestionable threat to public safety that unrestricted private firearm possession would entail, various categories of firearm-related regulation are permitted by the 2nd Amendment,” Clement said. He filed the brief in a closely watched case involving Washington, D.C.’s ban on keeping handguns at home for self-defense.

The head of a gun-control group said he was pleasantly surprised by the solicitor general’s stand.

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Handgun Violence, said he saluted the administration for recognizing a need for limits on gun rights.

Alan Gura, a key gun-rights advocate who is leading the challenge to the District of Columbia’s gun law, expressed disappointment at the administration’s position. He said he was troubled that Clement advised the justices to send the case back for further hearings in a lower court.

“We are not happy. We are very disappointed the administration is hostile to individual rights. This is definitely hostile to our position,” Gura said.

This year, for the first time, the court is expected to rule squarely on whether the 2nd Amendment gives individuals a right to have a gun despite laws or ordinances restricting firearms.

In the past, this amendment has sometimes been read as protecting only state militias. It says: “A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

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Bush Kills Second Amendment for Veterans
http://www.latimes.com/news…story?coll=la-home-center

NRA Helps To Destroy The 2nd Amendment
http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=5590

 



Bush Kills Second Amendment for Veterans

Bush Kills Second Amendment for Veterans

LA Times
January 9, 2008

A rare piece of gun legislation finds the National Rifle Association and the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence on the same side, and President Bush signed such a bill Tuesday.

The measure, Congress’ response to last year’s Virginia Tech shootings, is the first significant federal legislation in years aimed at tightening gun laws. It seeks to expand the federal database used to screen gun buyers to include the estimated 2 million-plus people, including felons and mentally ill individuals, who are ineligible to buy firearms.

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NRA Helps To Destroy The 2nd Amendment
http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=5590

 



NRA Helps To Destroy The 2nd Amendment

NRA Helps To Destroy The 2nd Amendment

Lee Rogers
Rogue Government
December 20, 2007

The U.S. Senate recently approved by voice vote a draconian piece of gun control legislation that will add mentally defective people to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. The legislation which was already approved by the U.S. House of Representatives now will get sent to George W. Bush where he will likely sign the bill into law. The bill was proposed in response to the Virginia Tech rampage killing in which 32 people were killed by a deranged individual with a history of psychotropic drug use. The legislation will effectively disarm people who the government declares to be mentally defective. The legislation provides no exemptions for military veterans diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder or people diagnosed with bogus metal disorders based off of junk science. People are allowed to protest their status as a government declared mental defective through a government proceeding. However, this means that individuals are guilty until proven innocent if they are caught wrongly in the system. The most disgusting part about this whole situation is the fact that the National Rifle Association (NRA) a so called pro second amendment lobbying group supported this legislation. The NRA has shown with their actions that they are actually a gun control lobby instead of a pro second amendment lobby. All gun owners who are affiliated with the NRA should choose to end their association with this fraudulent pro second amendment lobby.

Mentally ill individuals have been forbidden from owning firearms for awhile now but states lacked the funding to integrate these people into the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. This legislation provides the funding to give the government a mechanism to include mentally ill individuals into the system. Although the establishment cronies are selling this legislation as a reasonable step to keep everyone safe, it should be noted that this is a complete lie. Making it more difficult for people to own firearms does not help keep the public safe. Countries with draconian gun bans like the United Kingdom and Austrailia have seen a dramatic increase in crime as a result of their policies. The reason being, is that if you disarm the law abiding citizens the only people who will be armed will be criminals and government officials. Police can’t be everywhere to stop all crimes, therefore an individual given the right to defend themselves can take action on their own to prevent crime without intervention from the police.

The legislation does not provide exemptions for military veterans returning from the Middle East who have been diganosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. As a result, military veterans could end up getting caught in this system unable to purchase a gun. The human body is not meant to sustain multiple combat tours in life threatening situations and this has given rise to the number of veterans who are being diagnosed with this disorder. Soldiers are being sent over to Iraq on third, fourth and even in some cases fifth tours which has contributed to this. What all of this means is that individuals with military experience will be less likely to obtain guns which will limit people with in-house operational experience within the military to effectively rebel against the system.

Amazingly, the U.S. Senate approved this horrific gun control legislation by voice vote. Clearly, these people are too cowardly to put their name on the record stating that they actually voted for this legislation. This is proof that the establishment hates the freedoms provided to the people by the Constitution and are willing to do whatever it takes to destroy them. The Congress should be talking about eliminating the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, not passing legislation making it more powerful.

Even more ridiculous is that the NRA actually supported this legislation. What sort of pro second amendment lobby is the NRA if they openly support legislation that will give the government additional powers as to who can and cannot own a firearm? What sort of pro second amendment lobby is the NRA if they openly support legislation that will give the government powers to maintain a list of people saying they are guilty of being a mental defective forcing people to prove their innocence? Amazingly, opposition to the bill was removed after they agreed to allow people to challenge their mental defective status if they find themselves on a list. Considering the ineffective and bureaucratic mess the Federal government is, it will no doubt take a considerable amount of money and time to remove your name from this government list of mental defectives if you happen to find your name on the list. New disorders and illnesses are continually being invented based off of junk science which by fiat is expanding the number of people who are being given the mental defective label. It is hard to believe that the NRA thinks that this bill represents common sense when it is anything but.

In the Soviet Union the Communists used psychiatrists to label political opponents and anti-establishment intellectuals as mentally ill in order to lock them up in mental institutions. When the state starts labeling people as mental defectives in order to enfringe upon people’s rights, that opens up pandora’s box. What’s frightening about this is that the definition of a mental defective appears to be entirely vague. The government could at one point take the Soviet Union philosophy of labeling political opponents with a mental illness because they disagree with the government’s policies.

This legislation also opens up the door for the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives which in the past decade has grown substantially in size. The ATF will be the agency used by the government to enforce the insane policies set forth in this legislation. With these additional policies, they will no doubt use the additional personnel and resources that they now have at their disposal.

There is no question that without the NRA’s support this legislation would not have passed. The NRA has now proven themselves without question to be a pro gun control lobby and an enemy of the second amendment. The legislation which has now been approved in the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate will now be sent to George W. Bush where he will likely sign the legislation into law. The supreme court is also set to make a historic ruling on the second amendment pertaining to the lower court ruling which overturned the Washington DC gun ban. Considering what happened here with this legislation, we may unfortunately see the supreme court rule against the second amendment as well. The second amendment is being shredded into a million pieces and it is time people start getting mad at these criminal traitors in Congress for continuing their agenda of destroying the Bill of Rights.

How Many More Will Die in ‘Gun-Free’ Zones Before the Media Start Asking Why?
http://mydiscountstation.com/blog/?p=207

Gun Owners Group Condemns “Treacherous” Passage Of Anti-Second Amendment Legislation
http://infowars.net/articles/december2007/211207Zelman.htm

Gun Owners Get Stabbed In The Back — Veterans Disarmament Act on its way to the President
http://www.gunowners.org/a122007.htm

Gun Owners of America Summary of Gun Control
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=52811

Congress Slams Second Amendment
http://afp.google.com/art…R3u4k7KDnXmHNXPzo-Q

 



Senate Passes Gun Control Bill

Senate Passes Gun Control Bill

Reuters
December 19, 2007

Congress, prodded by the deadliest shooting rampage in modern American history, passed legislation on Wednesday designed to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.

Without objection, the Senate and House of Representatives approved the measure, which would bolster background checks for gun buyers, and sent it to President George W. Bush to sign.

The measure would be the first major new gun-control law in more than a decade. It was drafted after a deranged gunman killed himself and 32 others in April at Virginia Tech university.

The product of months of talks, the bill was finally agreed to as lawmakers prepared to wrap up their work for the year and head home for the holidays.

“Together, we have crafted a bill that will prevent gun violence, but maintain the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens” to bear arms, said Democratic Rep. Carolyn McCarthy of New York, a chief sponsor of the bill. Her husband was killed and son injured in 1993 when a gunman opened fire on a train.

The 4 million-member National Rifle Association, which has helped stop numerous gun-control bills as one of the nation’s most powerful pro-gun lobbying groups, backed this one.

“This is good public policy,” said NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam.

Americans are among the world’s most heavily armed people, and the country has one of the world’s highest murder rates.

There are an estimated 250 million privately owned guns in the United States, which has a population of about 300 million. About 30,000 people a year die from gun wounds.

Congress has long been reluctant to tackle the politically explosive issue of gun control. But it did so after it was disclosed that the Virginia Tech gunman had once been deemed by a judge to be dangerous and the information never reached a background check system for gun buyers.

The legislation would provide financial incentives for states to provide mental health and criminal records to a database used for federal background checks on gun buyers.

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The 1968 Gun Control Act prohibits anyone found by a court to be “a mental defective” from possessing a gun. It also bars felons, fugitives, drug addicts and wife beaters.

But because of state privacy laws and fiscal restraints, most states have failed to fully report such records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

McCarthy said: “Today, we are one step closer to making sure the National Instant Background Check System does what it was it was designed to do — keep guns out of the hands of convicted felons, individuals subjected to restraining orders, those charged with domestic violence and individuals deemed mentally ill by a court of law.”

The House initially passed such a bill in June. But the Senate refused to go along with it until a few changes were made. One would require the government to pay legal fees if a person who claims to have been wrongly listed in the background system wins an appeal.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, a Vermont Democrat and a sponsor of the bill, said: “Nothing can bring back the lives tragically lost at Virginia Tech, and no legislation can be a panacea, but the bill we pass today will begin to repair and restore our faith in the NICS system and may help prevent similar tragedies in the future.”

AP Report On Gun Control Bill Passage
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,,-7166091,00.html

Media In Japan Calls For Gun Control
http://afp.google.com/article/AL….L_ZAPLkW-ZoPw

UK gun crime up more than 20% since handguns were banned 10 years ago
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article3255689.ece

 



Gun Bill Rewrites Law To Disarm More Americans

ACTION ALERT:
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Gun Bill Rewrites Law To Disarm More Americans

Steve Watson
Infowars.net
September 26, 2007

Anti-gun legislation that has already passed the House is set to be rammed through the Senate, paving the way for the disarmament of combat veterans and bar anyone who is deemed to be “a danger to themselves” from owning firearms.

HR 2640, which has been dubbed the “veterans disarmament act” by gun owners, would place any veteran who has ever been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) on the federal gun ban list.

The bill passed in the House in June and was later passed out of the Senate Judiciary Committee both times without a recorded vote. Gun owners have been trying to raise awareness and beat down the legislation ever since.

The bill, sponsored by outspoken anti-second amendment representatives Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) and Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), also applies to anyone who has been diagnosed with ADHD as a child and to anyone who develops Alzheimer’s. Gun owners fear that in time the diagnosis of any kind of mental affliction could end with rights being stripped.

Another of those behind the legislation is Senator Chuck Schumer who, according to Gun Owners of America, is circulating an “agreement” which would waive the Senate rules in order to bring up and pass the bill:

This agreement is extremely diabolical, as it would eliminate the ability of pro-gun senators to offer amendments which would clean up the legislation… and would grease the skids for immediate passage!

But there is good news: In order for Schumer’s “agreement” to prevail, he must get “unanimous consent.” This means that just ONE single senator can block it.

The proposed legislation is another case that hinges on the government’s incessant creation of psychological profiles for everything that are then used to categorize people and accordingly strip rights.

Section 102((1)©(iv) in HR 2640 provides for dumping raw medical records into the system which will then, by law, serve as the basis for gun banning.

Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America has compared the veteran’s disarmament bill to actions undertaken by the Clinton Administration in the late 90s:

This is exactly what President Bill Clinton did over seven years ago when his administration illegitimately added some 83,000 veterans into the National Criminal Information System (NICS system) — prohibiting them from purchasing firearms, simply because of afflictions like PTSD.

Pratt explains that the bill radically redefines key legal terms to allow gun ownership rights to be stripped on the findings of a psychiatric diagnosis, where in the past gun rights could only be withdrawn through an adjudication by a judge, magistrate or court with the protections of due process.

Pratt also points out that although veterans affected by the bill could seek expungement under its terms, the expungement process in general has been blocked for over a decade by a “funds cut-off” engineered by Schumer himself.

The veterans disarmament act is tantamount to declaring the fear of an authoritarian government, the cornerstone of the second amendment, a mental illness. Once again we are witnessing another all out attack on the basic founding principles of the American Republic.

The following action is recommended by Gun Owners of America:

Please contact your two U.S. Senators RIGHT AWAY and urge them to OBJECT to Senator Chuck Schumer’s “unanimous consent agreement” to steamroll H.R. 2640, the McCarthy anti-gun bill.

You can use the pre-written message below and send it as an e-mail by visiting the GOA Legislative Action Center (where phone and fax numbers are also available).

—– Pre-written letter—–
Dear Senator:

Currently, anti-gun zealot Chuck Schumer is trying to get “unanimous consent” to steamroll the Senate in connection with Carolyn McCarthy’s anti-gun bill, H.R. 2640.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer’s from a Medicare home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Gun owners don’t support this legislation, better known as the Veterans Disarmament Act. The Military Order of the Purple Heart is opposed to it, having stated on June 18 of this year, that “For the first time the legislation, if enacted, would statutorily impose a lifetime gun ban on battle-scarred veterans.”

Please place a hold on the McCarthy bill and object to any unanimous consent agreement to discharge the bill.

Sincerely,

Anti-gun Zealots Trying To Ram Disarmament Bill Through Senate
http://www.gunowners.org/a092507.htm

Veterans Disarmament Act To Bar Vets From Owning Guns
http://www.officialwire.com/main.php?action=recent&rid=21430

Veterans Disarmament Bill Could Come Before The Senate At Any Time
http://www.gunowners.org/a091207.htm

 



Veterans Disarmament Act To Bar Vets From Owning Guns

Veterans Disarmament Act To Bar Vets From Owning Guns

Larry Pratt
Official Wire
September 23, 2007

Hundreds of thousands of veterans — from Vietnam through Operation Iraqi Freedom — are at risk of being banned from buying firearms if legislation that is pending in Congress gets enacted.

How? The Veterans Disarmament Act — which has already passed the House — would place any veteran who has ever been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) on the federal gun ban list.

This is exactly what President Bill Clinton did over seven years ago when his administration illegitimately added some 83,000 veterans into the National Criminal Information System (NICS system) — prohibiting them from purchasing firearms, simply because of afflictions like PTSD.

The proposed ban is actually broader. Anyone who is diagnosed as being a tiny danger to himself or others would have his gun rights taken away … forever. It is section 102((1)©(iv) in HR 2640 that provides for dumping raw medical records into the system. Those names — like the 83,000 records mentioned above — will then, by law, serve as the basis for gun banning.

No wonder the Military Order of the Purple Heart is opposed to this legislation.

The House bill, HR 2640, is being sponsored by one of the most flaming anti-Second Amendment Representatives in Congress: Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY). Another liberal anti-gunner, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), is sponsoring the bill in the Senate.

Proponents of the bill say that helpful amendments have been made so that any veteran who gets his name on the NICS list can seek an expungement.

But whenever you talk about expunging names from the Brady NICS system, you’re talking about a procedure that has always been a long shot. Right now, there are NO EXPUNGEMENTS of law-abiding Americans’ names that are taking place under federal level. Why? Because the expungement process which already exists has been blocked for over a decade by a “funds cut-off” engineered by another anti-gunner, Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY).

So how will this bill make things even worse? Well, two legal terms are radically redefined in the Veterans Disarmament Act to carry out this vicious attack on veterans’ gun rights.

One term relates to who is classified a “mental defective.” Forty years ago that term meant one was adjudicated “not guilty” in a court of law by reason of insanity. But under the Veterans Disarmament Act, “mental defective” has been stretched to include anyone whom a psychiatrist determines might be a tiny danger to self or others.

The second term is “adjudicate.” In the past, one could only lose one’s gun rights through an adjudication by a judge, magistrate or court — meaning conviction after a trial. Adjudication could only occur in a court with all the protections of due process, including the right to face one’s accuser. Now, adjudication in HR 2640 would include a finding by “a court, commission, committee or other authorized person” (namely, a psychiatrist).

Forget the fact that people with PTSD have the same violent crime rate as the rest of us. Vietnam vets with PTSD have had careers and obtained permits to carry firearms concealed. It will now be enough for a psychiatric diagnosis (a “determination” in the language of the bill) to get a veteran barred ­for life ­ from owning guns.

Think of what this bill would do to veterans. If a robber grabs your wallet and takes everything in it, but gives you back $5 to take the bus home, would you call that a financial enhancement? If not, then we should not let HR 2640 supporters call the permission to seek an expungement an enhancement, when prior to this bill, veterans could not legitimately be denied their gun rights after being diagnosed with PTSD.

Veterans with PTSD should not be put in a position to seek an expungement. They have not been convicted (after a trial with due process) of doing anything wrong. If a veteran is thought to be a threat to self or others, there should be a real trial, not an opinion (called a diagnosis) by a psychiatrist.
If members of Congress do not hear from soldiers (active duty and retired) in large numbers, along with the rest of the public, the Veterans Disarmament Act — misleadingly titled by Rep. McCarthy as the NICS Improvement Amendments Act — will send this message to veterans: “No good deed goes unpunished.”

Veterans Disarmament Bill Could Come Before The Senate At Any Time
http://www.gunowners.org/a091207.htm