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Debunking NIST’s Conclusions about WTC 7: Easy as Shooting Fish in a Barrel
George Washington’s Blog
August 20, 2008
The Government’s side (ever changing)
9/11 truth’s side
NIST lamely tried to explain the symmetrically collapse as follows:
WTC 7’s collapse, viewed from the exterior (most videos were taken from the north), did appear to fall almost uniformly as a single unit. This occurred because the interior failures that took place did not cause the exterior framing to fail until the final stages of the building collapse. The interior floor framing and columns collapsed downward and pulled away from the exterior frame. There were clues that internal damage was taking place, prior to the downward movement of the exterior frame, such as when the east penthouse fell downward into the building and windows broke out on the north face at the ends of the building core. The symmetric appearance of the downward fall of the WTC 7 was primarily due to the greater stiffness and strength of its exterior frame relative to the interior framing.
NIST can’t have it both ways. If the exterior frame was so stiff and strong, then it should have stopped the collapse, or – at the very least – we would have seen a bowing effect where tremendous opposing forces were battling each other for dominance in determining the direction of the fall.
In real life, the thick structural beams and “stiff [and strong]” exterior frame used in the building should have quickly stopped any partial collapse, unless the support columns were all blown. At the very worst, we should see a 1 or 2 floor partial collapse.
Freefall Speed
NIST said that WTC 7 fell at 40% slower than freefall speed. But it collapsed alot faster than it would have if the structural supports were not all blown away at the same instant. 40% slower isn’t very impressive — that’s like arguing that a rock falling through concrete 40% slower than a rock falling through the air is perfectly normal.
Again, why did the building collapse at all, given that the thick structural beams should have quickly stopped any partial collapse?
Fires Knocked Down Steel-Frame Buildings
NIST said fires alone brought down Building 7, but other office fires have burned longer and hotter without causing collapse.
No Explosive Sounds
NIST also said:
“No blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses.”
Oh, really?
What about this, this, this, this, this and this?
Moreover, as discussed below, high-tech explosives don’t necessarily make the same loud “booms” that dynamite make.
High-Tech Explosive Residues
And why were there residues for high-tech explosives at ground zero (and see this)?
Molten and Partially Evaporated Steel
And what about the pools of molten metal at ground zero for months? And why was the at and under the ground at the site of WTC 7 as hot as the ground under WTC 1 and 2?
And the New York Times wrote that partly EVAPORATED steel beams were found at WTC 7. But normal office and diesel fires are not NEARLY hot enough to evaporate steel. Hydrocarbon fires fueled by diesel (which was apparently stored at WTC 7) and normal office materials cannot evaporate steel. Steel does not evaporate unless it is heated to at least 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Everyone agrees that fires from conventional building fires are thousands of degrees cooler than that.
Pre-Knowledge
And why didn’t NIST address the obvious pre-knowledge by everyone around and well in advance that 7 was going to come down?
Experts
And why didn’t NIST address what these experts say?:
- The former head of the Fire Science Division of the government agency which claims that the World Trade Centers collapsed due to fire (the National Institute of Standards and Technology), who is one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering (Dr. James Quintiere), called for an independent review of the World Trade Center Twin Tower collapse investigation. “I wish that there would be a peer review of this,” he said, referring to the NIST investigation. “I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they’ve done; both structurally and from a fire point of view. … I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable.
- Two professors of structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (Dr. Joerg Schneider and Dr. Hugo Bachmann) said that, on 9/11, World Trade Center 7 was brought down by controlled demolition (translation here).
- Kamal S. Obeid, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Berkeley, of Fremont, California, says:
“Photos of the steel, evidence about how the buildings collapsed, the unexplainable collapse of WTC 7, evidence of thermite in the debris as well as several other red flags, are quite troubling indications of well planned and controlled demolition”
- Ronald H. Brookman, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Davis, of Novato California, writes:
“Why would all 47 stories of WTC 7 fall straight down to the ground in about seven seconds… ? It was not struck by any aircraft or engulfed in any fire. An independent investigation is justified for all three collapses including the surviving steel samples and the composition of the dust.”
- Graham John Inman, structural engineer, of London, England, points out:
“WTC 7 Building could not have collapsed as a result of internal fire and external debris. NO plane hit this building. This is the only case of a steel frame building collapsing through fire in the world. The fire on this building was small & localized therefore what is the cause?”
- A Dutch demolition expert (Danny Jowenko) stated that WTC 7 was imploded
- A prominent physicist with 33 years of service for the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, DC (Dr. David L. Griscom) said that the official theory for why the Twin Towers and world trade center building 7 collapsed “does not match the available facts” and supports the theory that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
August 22, 2008
In its final report on the collapse of WTC 7 that news outlets are reporting “puts 9/11 conspiracy theories to bed,” NIST claims that the never before observed “new phenomenon” of “thermal expansion” was to blame for the destruction of the building, a completely ludicrous conclusion in a report that simply ignores eyewitness testimony and hard evidence that points to the deliberate demolition of the structure.
NIST completely fails to address prior knowledge of the building’s collapse, including why news outlets like the BBC and CNN reported that the building had collapsed an hour before it actually fell, as well as firefighters on the scene who are heard on video saying, “Keep your eye on that building, it’ll be coming down soon.”
If the collapse of WTC 7 came as a result of a “new phenomenon” and an “extraordinary event” that had never happened before in the history of building collapses, then why did news stations and ground zero workers know it was about to happen a hour or more in advance?
This on its own completely destroys the very foundation of NIST’s assertion that a “new phenomenon” was responsible for the collapse.
Which is the more likely scenario – that ground zero officials and media outlets got word that the building was going to be “pulled” – or that they employed clairvoyant powers of deduction that enabled them to foresee an event that had never happened before in history to a building that was structurally reinforced and had suffered limited fires?
NIST claims that the collapse of Building 7 is “The first known instance of fire causing the total collapse of a tall building”.
We are actually being asked to believe the impossible – that WTC 7 was the only building in history to have defied all precedent and suffered a complete and almost instantaneous collapse from fire damage alone, despite this being an impossibility if one accepts the basic laws of physics as accurate.
The issue of molten metal, which was discovered under both the twin towers and WTC 7, suggesting an extremely hot burning agent was used in the demolition process, is completely ignored in NIST’s report, despite it being acknowledged in Appendix C of FEMA’s World Trade Center Building Performance Study, which stated:
Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent intergranular melting, was readily visible in the near-surface microstructure. A liquid eutectic mixture containing primarily iron, oxygen, and sulfur formed during this hot corrosion attack on the steel… The severe corrosion and subsequent erosion of Samples 1 and 2 are a very unusual event. No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified.
Speaking during a press conference that was called to counter NIST, Richard Gage, founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth and a member of the American Institute of Architects, dismissed the report.
“Tons of [molten metal] was found 21 days after the attack,” said Gage in an interview with a Vancouver, Canada television station. “Steel doesn’t begin to melt until 2,700 degrees, which is much hotter than what these fires could have caused.”
“There are holes in this story that you can drive a truck through,” he added, citing NIST’s claim that no evidence suggested loud explosive booms accompanied the collapse of the building by reminding that Thermite, a steel cutting agent, makes no explosive sound.
Even aside from this argument, there were numerous close proximity eyewitnesses who reported loud explosions, including NYPD officer Craig Bartmer and ground zero first responder Kevin McPadden (who also experienced the countdown before the building fell), but this fact was again simply ignored by NIST.
“FEMA found it,” said Gage. “Dr. Steven Jones found it, in the dust that landed in the entire area of lower Manhattan. And he finds it in the chunks of previously molten metal [from the towers].”
The core of NIST’s explanation, that an “extraordinary event” called “thermal expansion” was to blame for the sudden total collapse of the building is of course on the face of it a fraud when one considers the innumerable number of buildings that have suffered roaring fires across the majority of their floors and remained standing, whereas WTC 7 suffered limited fire damage across a handful of floors.
NIST also claims that the building only fell at 40% free fall speed, as if this isn’t suspicious in itself. Remember that this 47-story behemoth took just 7 seconds to completely collapse within its own footprint falling through the path of most resistance.
As the George Washington blog points out, “NIST said that WTC 7 fell at 40% slower than free fall speed. But it collapsed a lot faster than it would have if the structural supports were not all blown away at the same instant. 40% slower isn’t very impressive — that’s like arguing that a rock falling through concrete 40% slower than a rock falling through the air is perfectly normal.”
BYU Professor Steven E Jones WTC Lecture UVSC
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/B..oses_theory_on_0821.html
NIST Claims Fires Brought Down WTC-7
http://www.nytimes.com/2008..em=&pagewanted=print
Filed under: 9/11 Mysteries, 9/11 Truth, BBC foreknowledge, Controlled Demolition, Fox News, george carlin, larry silverstein, mark ruffalo, martin sheen, NIST, NORAD, Official 9/11 Theory, Pancake Theory, Propaganda, We Are Change, World Trade Center, wtc-7
Martin Sheen Questions Official 9/11 Story
Follows in footsteps of son Charlie Sheen, highlights implausible collapse of WTC 7, asks why building was “rigged”
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
October 29, 2007
Actor Martin Sheen questioned the official 9/11 story, as well as the collapse of Building 7 and Larry Silverstein’s “pull it” comment during an anti-war march this past weekend in Los Angeles, saying that recent revelations about the attacks had caused him to have doubts.
Sheen was interviewed by We Are Change L.A. along with fellow actor Mark Ruffalo during an event hosted by the ANSWER Coalition at which around 20,000 people attended.
Emmy and Golden Globe Award-winning Martin Sheen, star of blockbuster films like Apocalypse Now and hit series The West Wing, follows in the footsteps of his son Charlie Sheen, who publicly spoke of his doubts about the official 9/11 story back in March 2006.
Martin Sheen said that he was dubious about questioning the official story until his son introduced him to new information about the anomalies of what happened on that day.
“Up until last year, I was very dubious,” said Sheen, “I did not want to believe that my government could possibly be involved in such a thing, I could not live in a country that I thought could do that – that would be the ultimate betrayal,” he added.
“However, there have been so many revelations that now I have my doubts, and chief among them is Building 7 – how did they rig that building so that it came down on the evening of the day?” said Sheen.
Sheen also questioned the comments of Larry Silverstein, the leaseholder of the WTC complex, who told a September 2002 documentary that the decision was made to “pull” Building 7, a demolition industry term for the deliberate implosion of a structure.
“How convenient,” said Sheen, “When did they rig that building? That’s the most interesting question and I have not received a satisfactory answer – nobody could give me an answer to how you rig the building – what a coincidence – two weeks prior and then bring it down on the day, that is the one thing that I have not got a sensible answer about from anyone,” he concluded.
Sheen also stated that NORAD’s failure to follow its standard operating procedure on 9/11 was “something to wonder about”.
Watch the video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocUxplGLnT4
Click here to listen to the audio MP3.
Though Fox News and other attack dogs are likely to seize upon Sheen’s comments and run hit pieces, the National Institute of Standards and Technology itself had to admit recently that the total collapse of the twin towers at free fall speed could not be explained.
NIST also promised to investigate whether explosive devices were involved in the collapse of Building 7 in August last year.
The issue of Building 7 stoked controversy earlier this year when archive footage from news networks including BBC and CNN emerged that showed correspondents reporting the collapse the 47-story skyscraper over 20 minutes before it fell, leading some to charge that people with foreknowledge of the collapse were feeding networks a script as the events of 9/11 unfolded.
Actor Ruffalo “Baffled” At Collapse Of Twin Towers
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/301007_ruffalo_baffled.htm
George Carlin Questions “Received Reality” Of 9/11 Story
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articl…91007_carlin_questions.htm
Filed under: 9/11 Families, 9/11 Firefighters, 9/11 Truth, 9/11 workers, Alex Jones, Federal Reserve, Fidel Castro, Media, New York, Pancake Theory, Protest, Rudy Giuliani, We Are Change, Wolf Blitzer, World Trade Center
Despite Heavy Rains, Truth Movement Strong
Brian David Bradley
Prison Planet
September 12, 2007
The rain was almost fitting, as if tears from God raining down for the truth. Gathered around the ground zero PATH station, we all stood somberly while listening to the names of the fallen announced over the loud speakers.
For someone like me who had never been to the World Trade Center Complex, it was a very sobering and humbling moment. From the moment of my arrival I was stung by an overwhelming sense of reality. What I was witnessing was not just a memorial to the fallen, but an unmarked grave for twelve hundred still unidentified people.
News Media were everywhere. Within my first five minutes of arrival I had already been interviewed twice by Italian and British organizations. Most of the questions seemed condescending and not very objective, but I did my best to deal with their slanted investigation and hoped I didn’t give them more ammunition against our movement.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3859899305824758331&hl=en
The rain drizzled steadily throughout the silent vigil as our numbers grew steadily. Each new face brought with it a sense of sincerity, hope, love, and most of all, friendship. I stood there with brothers and sisters whom which I had never met before, but that didn’t matter, I was surrounded by friends.
Eventually, as our numbers swelled, the police politely barricaded us to prevent impedance to and from the train station. Some took this as a violation of our rights, and mocked the police officers, but most realized the rational behind the barricades, and graciously complied. Even Alex Jones, while being interviewed by Discovery Channel, seemed to have no problem with the barrier, as he politely asked our gathering to backup so that they could be constructed. The vigil was concluded at noon, and we all anxiously awaited the word to start our march towards building number seven.
The moment the march started, as if on queue, the skies opened up. As the crowd moved towards building seven, many of us without umbrellas had to seek shelter below ground to protect our equipment. The police hassled some, instructing us to take a train or get out of the station, but I stood by a far wall and was left alone. After a brief time, the rain began to subside, and I emerged from the underground. The previously brimming width was now sopping and evacuated. Looking for a familiar face, I came upon one of Alex Jones film crew, and we raced towards building seven, the march was on.
It wasn’t hard to find the crowd, the roar of voices was overwhelming. Chants, such as, WE ARE CHANGE, or 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, could be heard from blocks around. All of those that hadn’t taken shelter were dripping wet, but their energy was still tremendous.
Our next stop was the Federal Reserve. Once again the police were extremely polite and courteous, and helped the entire group move safely from destination to destination. Alex, Luke, and others from We Are Change led the march, and informed the crowd when to cease our chants out of respect for family members we were passing.
Our final destination was City Hall, where Alex and Luke spoke to all of us, but mostly towards police and other first responders. On many of their faces you could see a subdued smile, and from most I could sense a feeling of benediction. We had done something valuable on this day, we had stirred thousands.
It is all too easy in our fight against tyranny to become callous and bitter towards the world around us. It’s the tactic of our enemy to convince us we’ve been defeated before we even begin to fight. Many of us out there know that problems exist, but feel hopeless. Let me assure you, it is not. Getting active is asy. It’s getting off your couch that takes initiative.
NYC with Alex Jones – (9/11/2007)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2822833360634920388&hl=en
Alex Jones speech at Webster Hall – (9/11/2007)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnZvEYz8ZFk
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http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/september2007/110907_pancake_theory.htm
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/100907_wtc_bombed.htm
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